When we first talked about what I was doing I really did not expect for it to be as easy or for us to connect as quickly as we did, Rodney. . . The material I had needed to be reorganized and fleshed out. We worked together on that and we decided to release the books with an end in mind. . . you really helped me do that . . . you came up with illustrations that captured what it was like to actually use these principles, and I was thrilled with all of that.